tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post8797561761831873553..comments2023-10-18T14:53:28.622+01:00Comments on Forest Murmurs: Back againFr Michael Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-20362594289008559852007-11-06T10:23:00.000+00:002007-11-06T10:23:00.000+00:00The Pont. "Ecclesia Dei" Commission is there to fa...The Pont. "Ecclesia Dei" Commission is there to facilitate the implementation of "Summorum Pontificum".<BR/><BR/>I doubt very much they are about to put a restrictive interpretation on any part of the text of the Motu Proprio.<BR/><BR/>I don't think one need worry.Dr. Peter H. Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13955402188119575105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-37492256164820220662007-11-05T09:00:00.000+00:002007-11-05T09:00:00.000+00:00Thanks Dr Wright. I`m a little anxious as to what...Thanks Dr Wright. I`m a little anxious as to what the Ecclesia Dei document will say as the MP seems clear enough to me but I hope it will make things easier for us.Fr Michael Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-44921686998406503202007-11-04T23:15:00.000+00:002007-11-04T23:15:00.000+00:00Thanks for the link! I liked your description of h...Thanks for the link! I liked your description of how a group might develop. I hadn't seen it from that angle before.Father John Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10581732723849634398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-22686598148099396572007-11-03T16:08:00.000+00:002007-11-03T16:08:00.000+00:00Thank you, Father.That was a very interesting rea...Thank you, Father.<BR/><BR/>That was a very interesting read.<BR/><BR/>You show great pastoral understanding in discussing how "Summorum Pontificum" can work.<BR/><BR/>I suppose the "Ecclesia Dei" Commission will shortly have to address the vexed question of what precisely is meant by a group of faithful which exists "continenter"<BR/><BR/>I can't help thinking that this is a matter which might better have been left to the pastoral judgement of the priest. But it's too late for that now.<BR/><BR/>The amount of comment I've read on various blogs shows this to be a very contentious subject indeed.<BR/><BR/>I remember a very useful comment on Father Z's blog where the commenter examined the dynamic of the word "existere" which means far more than "to exist", but also means "to come into being" or "to become manifest", etc.<BR/><BR/>So much for a "stable group" which "already exists".<BR/>NOT a good translation !<BR/><BR/>I think you have got it exactly right.<BR/><BR/>A priest of the Latin rite now has the right to celebrate using the 1962 Missal.<BR/><BR/>He doesn't need a group of faithful to do so.<BR/><BR/>If, however, a group of faithful become interested in the "old" Mass and turns up regularly when it is celebrated, then there is your "stable group" (or however they wish to translate it).<BR/><BR/>This is a sensible interpretation of "Summorum Pontificum which, not being a restrictive document quite the contrary,) should not be interpreted in a restrictive sense.<BR/><BR/>Of course there are difficulties.<BR/><BR/>But it is unfortunate if a bishop identifies problems which don't exist or even causes problems.<BR/><BR/>An American blogger (who seems to prefer the new liturgy,) put it rather well, I thought, when she expressed her impatience with bishops who "try to put up roadblocks" to the implementation of "Summorum Pontificum".<BR/><BR/>We must see what the future holds.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the post.<BR/><BR/>God bless you.Dr. Peter H. Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13955402188119575105noreply@blogger.com