tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post7968378049358689967..comments2023-10-18T14:53:28.622+01:00Comments on Forest Murmurs: The Catholic Herald on the Holy Days issueFr Michael Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-7425700029361908892008-05-15T13:30:00.000+01:002008-05-15T13:30:00.000+01:00Frankly speaking, I can't see why the Masses of th...Frankly speaking, I can't see why the Masses of these Solemnities shouldn't be celebrated on thursdays. The only thing that would have to be done is - instead of celebrating the Mass in the morning (as usual on a Sunday), when most people would be working, to celebrate the Mass, or even two, in the evening(say, first one at 6 and the other one at 7:30 or even 8PM). The majority of us do not work evenings, and those who do could attend a Vigil Mass the day before, couldn't they?<BR/><BR/>Meddling with the Missal is never a good idea... It starts with that - what will it end with?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-39523301178979073262008-05-04T12:48:00.000+01:002008-05-04T12:48:00.000+01:00It is somewhat unclear despite the appeal to logic...It is somewhat unclear despite the appeal to logic by the ED official. He does say the feast can still, somehow, be celebrated during the week and I take it to mean it should be celebrated agin on the Sunday. If it were just a case of moving the obligation then there is already an obligation to go to Mass on the Sunday so it wuldbe easier to say the obligation or the feast was rmoved but this hasn`t been said. Oh I don`t know. I hope we`ll get further clarification.Fr Michael Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-38804357266948674812008-05-04T10:35:00.000+01:002008-05-04T10:35:00.000+01:00Is it really clear from the quoted words of the Co...Is it really clear from the quoted words of the Commission (as opposed to the English Bishops' interpretation of them) that it is the feast and not just the obligation that has been transfered?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-20541060076100046242008-05-03T20:59:00.000+01:002008-05-03T20:59:00.000+01:00Let's hope the document clears up a lot of things....Let's hope the document clears up a lot of things.<BR/><BR/>In the mean time, I'm moving to Scotland!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-23851063618102374932008-05-03T14:42:00.000+01:002008-05-03T14:42:00.000+01:00Ben I agree with your analysis. According to Dr Re...Ben I agree with your analysis. According to Dr Reid it is not possible to celebrate a votive Mass of the Ascension. The answer from the Eccesia Dei member who spoke to the Catholic Herald gives the hope that the feast can be celebrated on the proper day and then for it to be repeated on the Sunday. However I think we need further, authoritatve clarification. I wonder if the long awaited document from ED on the Motu Proprio will address this?Fr Michael Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-86836132604936552162008-05-03T14:31:00.000+01:002008-05-03T14:31:00.000+01:00If I can answer my own question above, it seems to...If I can answer my own question above, it seems to me increasingly clear that the 'least worst solution' (to use the horrible but current phrase) is to celebrate the Mass & office of the Ascension (or Corpus Christi, or Epiphany) on the proper day, but then to transfer the external solemnity to the Sunday, i.e. to celebrate up to two public Masses of the Ascension (&c.) on the Sunday. I can see no other solution that satisfies (a) the rubrics of the 1962 Missal and (b) the demands of the bishops' conference and the Ecclesia Dei commission.<BR/><BR/>You know your canon law, Father. Does my interpretation make sense to you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-12319081354423908272008-05-03T11:39:00.000+01:002008-05-03T11:39:00.000+01:00I`m afriad you are still bound by the obligationto...I`m afriad you are still bound by the obligationto hear Mass on Sunday so it will be the Ascension again for you. At SS Peter and Paul`s on Sunday night, with the EF, we are having the Mass for the Sunday after Ascension becuse the music was all arrnged before this all came up. however we`ve not had an official communication about it all.Fr Michael Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-41025136306013385542008-05-03T10:28:00.000+01:002008-05-03T10:28:00.000+01:00Father,I live in Scotland where Ascension Day is s...Father,I live in Scotland where Ascension Day is still on a Thursday and a Holiday of Obligation. On Sunday, I shall be in England, am I exempted from hearing mass on Sunday or should I go along celebrate Ascension Day for the second time?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-62296790827704294952008-05-02T14:45:00.000+01:002008-05-02T14:45:00.000+01:00Poor bishops. They haven't really thought this thr...Poor bishops. They haven't really thought this through at all, have they? I can't even see how the Ecclesia Dei response will help the publisher of the Missal, as it doesn't deal with some basic practical questions, e.g. is a Mass of the Ascension on the Thursday actually prohibited (the barrack-room canonists in the blogosphere have various views)? What happens to the rogation days?<BR/><BR/>It's also a bit odd that the bishops' press release talks about a 'request for information', but it's clear from Cardinal Castrillon's reply that what they sent him was the statement of an opinion - not quite the same thing.<BR/><BR/>And announcing the ruling before Ascension Day, but after the LMS had started advertising Ascension Day Masses - and without consulting the LMS - is just sheer bad manners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com