tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post7913288956854952999..comments2023-10-18T14:53:28.622+01:00Comments on Forest Murmurs: Holy WeekFr Michael Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-82884986160424738672008-04-03T23:28:00.000+01:002008-04-03T23:28:00.000+01:00Anonymous, I think the `Protestant cough` is a rea...Anonymous, I think the `Protestant cough` is a reaction to even the suggestion of incense ( as in the empty thurible story) rather than an excessive amount. I hope I am not guilty of using excessive amounts and that a moderate amount, which must inevitably produce some smoke, is acceptable.Fr Michael Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-46613529198345945882008-04-03T22:25:00.000+01:002008-04-03T22:25:00.000+01:00I have the so-called "protestant cough"... however...I have the so-called "protestant cough"... however I am asthmatic and experience severe difficulties with excessive use of incense.... so not everyone is coughing through disapproval some people are genuinely distressed by it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-80957843407482646912008-03-31T14:37:00.000+01:002008-03-31T14:37:00.000+01:00I must beg to differ with Dr. Wright as I believe ...I must beg to differ with Dr. Wright as I believe the Paul VI Good Friday service is superior to that found in the 1962 missal.<BR/><BR/>In the Paul VI form the use of Eucharistic vestments has been restored (there is of course the anomoly of using the wrong colour red. The red used in many medieval usages was a very dark red indeed and nothing like the festal vestment worn by Benedict XVI this year); the curtailment of the Passion of St. John made in the 1956 reform had been abandoned; and oddities such as wearing a cope for the collects sung at the centre of the altar have also been dropped.<BR/><BR/>Some years ago a friend of mine who had been an MC at the London Oratory acted as such for the celebration of a 1962 Triduum at Ware. He was profoundly disappointed and considered the Paul VI form superior.<BR/><BR/>My own preference would be for the Tridentine form (i.e. pre-1956) although I have always thought even that could be improved by the inclusion of some of the non-Tridentine ceremonies of the Burial of the Cross and Easter Sepulchre.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-38683005743637263192008-03-29T14:12:00.000+00:002008-03-29T14:12:00.000+00:00I also was very taken by Fr. Sean's story.I have n...I also was very taken by Fr. Sean's story.<BR/><BR/>I have noticed "the cough", accompanied by people shuffling and shifting in their seats, can be brought on by lengthy sermons and even by pastoral letters !PeterHWrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08734936083886678494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-22583845716317188802008-03-29T08:27:00.000+00:002008-03-29T08:27:00.000+00:00Pastor in valle what a good story. I liked the phr...Pastor in valle what a good story. I liked the phrase `Protestant cough`! It is remarkable how the coughing goes hand in hand with opposition to many of the other things I`ve introduced. One of the coughers was at a funeral yesterday at my other, much bigger, church and as soon as the incense appeared at the end of Mass the coughing started.Fr Michael Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-28211645143222846252008-03-29T08:22:00.000+00:002008-03-29T08:22:00.000+00:00I have a friend, an Anglican clergyman, who told m...I have a friend, an Anglican clergyman, who told me of a colleague of his who wanted to introduce incense into his little parish church. On the first Sunday the thurible appeared, there began a chorus of what they called the 'Protestant cough'. Finally after a celebration that sounded like a tuberculosis ward, the cleric called the thurifer to him in front of the congregation and simply tipped it upside down, showing it to have been empty throughout. That was the end of the Protestant cough.Pastor in Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-87307982655131655352008-03-28T22:51:00.000+00:002008-03-28T22:51:00.000+00:00I agree with Ottaviani.The mischief began when the...I agree with Ottaviani.<BR/><BR/>The mischief began when the liturgical movement was hijacked by the modernisers.<BR/><BR/>We were better off before the 1955 reforms.<BR/><BR/>Nevertheless, very well done, Father, for celebrating the 1962 Good Friday liturgy.<BR/><BR/>At least it's better than the Novus Ordo version !PeterHWrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08734936083886678494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-6371698888196882592008-03-27T15:37:00.000+00:002008-03-27T15:37:00.000+00:00Regarding some of your parishoneers having a probl...Regarding some of your parishoneers having a problem with incense, I have heard it said, and seen it demonstrated, as the best way to smoke out those with protestant convictions. I also know a lady of strong low church Anglican faith who on entering a Catholic church wrinkles her nose like a rabbit and gives a little shake of the head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35539648.post-18235218686331919732008-03-27T14:39:00.000+00:002008-03-27T14:39:00.000+00:00You have Bugnini to blame for those changes made t...You have Bugnini to blame for those changes made to the Holy Week. The 1956 Holy Week "restoration" is all his doing and he takes credit for it in his memoirs (which you can obtain from St. Paul's Media, I think)<BR/><BR/>I've always thought the amount of dialogue in the 1962 Holy Week was strange too.Aduliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00534730218402742905noreply@blogger.com